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Propane
06-28-2007, 08:46 PM
I've been putting my condenser mic via my guitar port (Gearbox) into my PC for all my vocal recordings...i know this might sound daft but...i wanna put the mic straight into the PC without going thru the guitar port to try & get a better / cleaner result...i know you go into the mic input ..but from there i'm at a loss!..any ideas...i'm using cubase VST as well
Thanks in anticipation
Mac (Propane) :wtf:

Avalon
06-29-2007, 03:42 AM
Tbh mate, im not sure i'd waste my time trying it like that, mic -> pre-amp -> line-in/USB is by far the best way imo, i've used a V-Amp 2, and a Pod XT for vocals (i use the Pod for all my vocals) and it works brilliant.
Im not sure what your soundcard is, but unless its something quite good to start with, i don't think you'll beat the GP, i would spend your time setting a GP patch up for it instead.
Just my opinion though.

goport
06-29-2007, 09:40 AM
The guitarport is an audio interface and will have far superior fidelity than a standard pc soundcard. If you have a audiocard (ie one designed for recording) then it may be beneficial but a soundblaster or any of the other variants normally fall far short of the recording capture abilities than a true audio card.

How are you supplying the phantom +48v power to the condenser? if you are using a tube style pre amp this may be where the signal is becoming "dirty."

Propane
06-29-2007, 10:23 AM
Thanks for your help chaps..appreciated....Lawrence i use a brand new single input stand alone 48v condenser preamp. I have no probs with the sound i'm getting just that i was trying to get away from having to load the GP up all the time etc..just wondering how other people do it on hearing some great vocal sounds on here!..Must say that you & Avalon both get great vocal sounds ..As Avalon has said he goes thru his pod & sounds awesome..do you go thru processors?..or straight DI?
cheers
mac :thumb:

Bahamut
06-29-2007, 11:26 AM
Yeah like Av and Goport i also just use the Podxt to do the vocals m8, i think its just tweaking the bugger thats the trick , vocals are a personal preference so someones vocal sound might not always be the same as you want to sound if you get me.
Here try these out m8, these are the patchs i use, there not perfect but might be a help in the direction you need:)

goport
06-29-2007, 11:51 AM
Thanks for your help chaps..appreciated....Lawrence i use a brand new single input stand alone 48v condenser preamp. I have no probs with the sound i'm getting just that i was trying to get away from having to load the GP up all the time etc..just wondering how other people do it on hearing some great vocal sounds on here!..Must say that you & Avalon both get great vocal sounds ..As Avalon has said he goes thru his pod & sounds awesome..do you go thru processors?..or straight DI?
cheers
mac :thumb:

Recording vocals is a real chore! :)

First thing I do is hang 2 blankets from the ceiling of my studio. one behind the mic and one at my back. This serves 2 purposes: It cuts down ambient noise and provides a dead environment. the first point is obvious but the second only really comes into play for the high/loud notes that need to be performed at a distance from the mic. By deadening the environment you remove the room reverb so vocal tonality does not change - it might sound over the top but 10" from the mic you have all of your room characteristics affecting the way your voice is captured.

I use a Behringer B-2 Pro large diaphragm condenser mic for vocals. Its cheap for what it is (£90-100) and works well. I usually record with the cardioid setting selected. I use the wind breaker cover and a pop shield (about 6" from the mic).
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/images/behringerb2pro.l.jpg

I tend to go direct into my Audio interface, the firewire FA-101 (below)

http://floridamusicco.com/images/product%20pics/smallwide/tnl_fa101b.jpg

I use Waves C1 on the input channel of Cubase and then just add vst fx until I get it sounding as best I can. :)

I did use the Toneport UX2 for a while to record vocals but I noticed it beginning to sound quite harsh when I had 30 or more audio tracks running in cubase. The FA101 seems to be far more forgiving so I am sticking with this method for the time being :)

Propane
06-29-2007, 12:00 PM
Thanks y'all for the help!..thanks for the patches as well! but i dunno if i can use them with guitarport?.......Many thanks!.....It's great to have a forum when your'e stuck!.......Mac :yourock: