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Johnny
03-13-2008, 03:13 PM
Hi I'm going to purchase hot rails for a backup Strat. I found these (Drogonfire Hot Rails) on ebay and also read the review on Harmony Central. They got good reviews.
Anyway,..my question is when wiring these would it be a good idea to take the middle pickup and turn it around for phase correction. I've heard of people doing this before. What would be the benefit? Why do they do it? See below of what I mean in the picture. Its a really bad picture but the middle pickup is turned around. But looks really bad..LMFAO. You know what I mean,..right?? I hope so!!
Johnny
wahwah
03-13-2008, 03:38 PM
Never heard of Dragon Fire pups but I have a Seymour Duncan hot-rails and it sings. You might the out of phase thing a more interesting sound on positions 2 and 4 of the switch but if I were you I'd go with Seymours...tried and tested over many years. Hope this helps.
Johnny
03-13-2008, 06:51 PM
Never heard of Dragon Fire pups but I have a Seymour Duncan hot-rails and it sings. You might the out of phase thing a more interesting sound on positions 2 and 4 of the switch but if I were you I'd go with Seymours...tried and tested over many years. Hope this helps.
I have Seymour Hot rails in my other strat that I gig with,..but I wanna try these other pups in my back up guitar. I was just wondering if turning the middle pup around would be a difference or is it necessary?
Johnny
Captain Spasm
03-14-2008, 07:42 AM
Johnny,
Surely, PHYSICALLY turning it around won't make a difference in 'phase' terms?
THAT depends on the wiring configuration, doesn't it? If you simply physically turn the pup around, then electrically and connectively speaking, nothing will have changed.
However, since the pups are asymmetric, it would move the pup's rails to a (slightly) different position under the strings and therefore marginally change the tonal characteristics 'picked up' from the strings.
Also, if the pups are biased towards any particular frequency ranges, to balance out any accentuation/attenuation of a particular string ... I'm thinking 'B' string on a strat here ... since most decent strat pups have that particular polepiece retracted away from the 'B' string to 'normalise' the perceived output ('B' string on a strat seems to resonate more, due to basic frequency and sympathetic vibrations in the body)?
Anyway although these pups are 'rail' type and therefore apparently not adjustable (unless there's something else going on under the covers ... oo-err). If you simply turned "standard" strat pups around, then the polepieces, unless reset, would accentuate and attenuate DIFFERENT strings, changing the frequency 'bias' from/towards those affected strings.
Got that? :headscratch:
kissmania
05-27-2008, 06:13 PM
Hi I'm going to purchase hot rails for a backup Strat. I found these (Drogonfire Hot Rails) on ebay and also read the review on Harmony Central. They got good reviews.
Anyway,..my question is when wiring these would it be a good idea to take the middle pickup and turn it around for phase correction. I've heard of people doing this before. What would be the benefit? Why do they do it? See below of what I mean in the picture. Its a really bad picture but the middle pickup is turned around. But looks really bad..LMFAO. You know what I mean,..right?? I hope so!!
Johnny
Just wondering if you got the Drogonfire Hot Rails, How do they sound & how do you like them, I was looking to buy them from ebay.
Parker1963
06-02-2008, 10:13 AM
Hey Johhny
I bought some GFS hotrail's off of Ebay and they were great, good overall tone,Cheap, and noisless to boot.
Not sure about Dragon fly but GFS is a good company to buy from and they are on Harmoney Central as well.
As far as wiring goes all you have to do is switch the Ground wire to the positive hot and vice versa when combining these types of pickups with regular single coil's.
Park
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