I am getting a lot of "incidental" handling noise when I play he SG. Only have to touch a string and I get a thunk in the headphones. Happens with the amp too. Been noticing it for a while and put it down to my inept clumsiness :) but it is REALLY starting to annoy me, so tonight I tried lowering the pickups, I have them almost down to the holders with little improvement. Could the p/u's be microphonic? I just read an article on potting them and the guy seemed to think that Korean Epi p/u's are prone to this :dunno:

http://www.guitarnuts.com/technical/electrical/index.php

Turning down the sensitivity and / or input level on my Boss MicroBR helps but does not eliminate the problem.

So, do I have to mess with the guitar, or work harder on my damping technique? Any advice or opinions welcome :thumb:

PS ... 01:40am, off to bed :D

Hello Steve.
Nice to talk to another SG man.

I know what you are talking about with the incidental noise.I get that from time to time if im plugged directly into my Roland recorder using the COSM guitar feature.But if i am mic'd i dont get it at all.I think it has more to do with the hot input rather than your PUP's.The only other guitar of mine that does it as well is my Clapton Sig Strat that has the DBX 9 volt boost to the pick up's.Check to see that what ever amp or preamp you are using is not dialed in too hot.I really cant see good humbuckers giving you that kind of grief.

Parker

it might possibly be a bad ground somewhere in your guitar. take a wire and touch your bridge and the medal jacket from your guitar cord plug and see if the noise is gone. i know my les paul made a lot of noises when the ground to the bridge broke. worth trying

Thanks guys. Not a bad earth, checked for that. I think it is the preamp and speaker mike settings on the Br1 too. Trouble is turning the settings down I dont quite get the bite! Will keep messing with it......

One thing that caused me abit of trouble when i first built my Av-1, is I somehow wired in a ground loop, which makes it hum quite lot until you touch the strings or the metal of a control, i ended up rewiring completely over this in the end.
But it doesn't sound like that kinda problem either though, it sounds like its just ultra sensitive for some reason, and it definately shouldn't be.
To check if your pickups are Microphonic, you should just be able to speak into them when plugged in and hear yourself if memory serves me correctly, you might be able to hear yourself a touch normally, even with the best potting, but if you are loud and clear, that might be of concern.

Thanks guys. Not a bad earth, checked for that. I think it is the preamp and speaker mike settings on the Br1 too. Trouble is turning the settings down I dont quite get the bite! Will keep messing with it......

I believe it could be that. My EPI pups don´t do it, unless you´re talking hum sound, they do hum for some really overdrived particular tones on the pod.

No hums or buzz, just that I hardly dare touch the guitar cos it will make noise, like it is all too sensitive. Come to think of it, I should try Shannon's Ibanez, why did I not think of that earlier :brickwall:

Hey Steve

One last thing to try...Put a pedal in front of your connection to what ever unit you are using,either a OD or Chorus, or DD3 style delay.See if that cuts down the hot input.The Volume knob on the stompbox can become your control.

Park

Hey Steve

One last thing to try...Put a pedal in front of your connection to what ever unit you are using,either a OD or Chorus, or DD3 style delay.See if that cuts down the hot input.The Volume knob on the stompbox can become your control.

Park

Good thoght, but all I have is the boss :(

Yikes of run out of idea's then.:tard:

One pedal you should check out that you would find invaluable for recording is The BBE sonic Stomp.I cant beilive what a difference this pedal has made in all my recordings or live.

http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp

Check it out.

Park

I dont know if this will help, but what about a gate?

does sound like an earth prob..tried a different lead?..checked wiring on pots? might be touching..or pots might be shittied up.

earth loose on bridge/trem?


regards,
jim.

Hello Steve


Did you ever figure out what was causing the hot input?< .
I was sure that it had something to do with your unit, did you somehow activate the boost or phantom mic system in the utility section by accident:confused:

Hope it got fixed anyway.

Parker

Have not had a chance to mess with it properly, want to try my daughters Ibanez on the same settings to see what difference it makes. I think it is a combination of the BR presets being for a single coil guitar maybe, so the humbuckers on the SG are too much, and me being clumsy and not damping properly. Only been back on the electric for about a year or so, used to strumming a battered old acoustic. Would do me good to get back to basics and do some proper practice, but I am too lazy :lol: Rather spend the limited time I have available playing and recording than practicing :D

Would do me good to get back to basics and do some proper practice, but I am too lazy :lol: Rather spend the limited time I have available playing and recording than practicing :D

Playing and recording is a great way to practice, as well! Also it's fun :woot:

Have not had a chance to mess with it properly, want to try my daughters Ibanez on the same settings to see what difference it makes. I think it is a combination of the BR presets being for a single coil guitar maybe, so the humbuckers on the SG are too much, and me being clumsy and not damping properly. Only been back on the electric for about a year or so, used to strumming a battered old acoustic. Would do me good to get back to basics and do some proper practice, but I am too lazy :lol: Rather spend the limited time I have available playing and recording than practicing :D

Good plan(trying diff guitar), I have a BR1200 as well and i know exactly what you mean about dividing time between practice and recording one really impacts on the other.However i have found that when in a rut the new things i learn from practice spill over into recording and bring fresh ideas that were blocked up.
Steve i have been meanning to ask you about your avatar is that a 61 re-issue Gibson SG?.( you had mentioned you have an SG in earlier post)
I just got one 3 weeks ago and it is the best overall guitar i have now in my collection, just can't get over the difference between it's quality and a standard SG i also own.The 60's slim taper neck is absolutly the best neck i have ever played.

Like you i stopped playing for about 10 years when my wife and i had children and have only recently got back into playing again fulltime about the last 3 years.In that time the leaps and bounds in home recording equipment have really made a difference in my renewed interest, drums sound authentic now and with the advent of COSM you can actually put together something that sounds great on CD.I would be glad to share any BR related info with you if you ever want to exchange tech info(drum loops for BR system)


Best regards
Parker