Hi guys, here's a new idea for this part of the forum, the Tried & Tested thread, the idea is that anyone can post up a sample of any guitar or music gear they use for others to listen to, and you'll be able to hear what that piece of equipment sounds like played by a real musician, in a real situation, instead of just hearing what the manufactures put up.
Also if you want, you can add any relevant details or links to the post, where you bought it, who produces it, your experiences with it, and any other infomation that you might think is useful :)

Ideally, it would be cool if all the samples everyone posts stay up for as long as possible, but i know some of you have limited space on your attachments, so if thats a problem, PM me, and i'll see what i can do :thumb:

Anyhow, look forward to hearing everyones equipment in action, and i'll try to kick off proceedings later today with my X3L :)

Hi guys, here's a new idea for this part of the forum, the Tried & Tested thread, the idea is that anyone can post up a sample of any guitar or music gear they use for others to listen to, and you'll be able to hear what that piece of equipment sounds like played by a real musician, in a real situation, instead of just hearing what the manufactures put up.
Also if you want, you can add any relevant details or links to the post, where you bought it, who produces it, your experiences with it, and any other infomation that you might think is useful :)

Ideally, it would be cool if all the samples everyone posts stay up for as long as possible, but i know some of you have limited space on your attachments, so if thats a problem, PM me, and i'll see what i can do :thumb:

Anyhow, look forward to hearing everyones equipment in action, and i'll try to kick off proceedings later today with my X3L :)

Great idea! I'll get crackin on some samples myself! Now,.the question,..when we put together the samples,..you just want the gear sound and NO BACKERS,..right?

Johnny

Dosen't matter mate , im working on some G9 samples but im using backers (well for one reason i don't have a noise gate) , thats one of the downsides to the G9 , the noisegates models on it aren't very good imo :p
If anyone wants to hear some samples of the podxt or v-amp2 in action aswell , just let me know and i will bumble something together for you :)

Dosen't matter mate , im working on some G9 samples but im using backers (well for one reason i don't have a noise gate) , thats one of the downsides to the G9 , the noisegates models on it aren't very good imo :p
If anyone wants to hear some samples of the podxt or v-amp2 in action aswell , just let me know and i will bumble something together for you :)


Yeah man,..bring them all on the table! We wanna hear-em all! I'll be doing V-Amp Pro and bass V-Amp Pro along with my Johnson J Station and some other great Stomp boxes too!

Johnny

With or without backers is fine, i guess without you can hear more of what is being played, but also on a backer shows it in a different context, so maybe a mixture of both for balance :)

Right, first sample for you, its the Pod X3Live, played on an Ibanez S series.
The whole clip is guitars only, first off a double tracked rhythm off Petrucci's "Curve", second clip is a Clean with chorus & delay setting, the third clip is a Marshall style rhythm, its my EJ setting for "Camels Night Out".

liked the clean clip, im not too fond of chorus really though, not when it colours the tone too much.
good thread this though, id like to hear some different stomps too.

how do you find the dual amp tones on the podx3 jam [and mark]?

regards,
jim.

liked the clean clip, im not too fond of chorus really though, not when it colours the tone too much.
good thread this though, id like to hear some different stomps too.

how do you find the dual amp tones on the podx3 jam [and mark]?

regards,
jim.

The dual tone can be quite good, i've been experimenting with 2 Patchs that are almost identical, but with different Cabinets to fill in some of the EQ's, and this also stop the tones merging too, if the patches are 100% identical, it just sounds louder, and no different.
Its also quite useful in the above format for recording dual rhythm tracks, one panned either side, i've been testing this for Petrucci and Morse songs with to good effect, but i've just changed Amps for my main setting, so i've not tuned in the new dual tone yet.

Like i mentioned in the other thread, alot of the Comp pedals don't seem to do much, other then add noise, but my fav is the Tube Screamer, its great for just adding more punch to your sound without actually colouring the tone, atm my main setting has the stomp assigned to the Screamer, and its basically off for rhythm, on for lead, but the tone still sounds the same, which is what i love :)

I'll see if i can find some more patches to test out, i've still not even imported alot of my old settings in yet, but there is alot of them to go through, if there is anything in particular you wanna hear, let me know :)

Sounds excellent Jam and i must admit the X3 live seems to sound more polished then the normal podxt , that ENGL powerball sounds a diffrent amp on yours compared to my xt , so that might be interesting to someone whos interested in getting one , all these little quirks add up lol :D

Hi guys and gals! Robin Trowers-Bridge Of Sighs. V-Amp Pro with a VooDoo Lab MicroVibe.

Here is one sample using the V-Amp Pro on Brit Hi Gain. The settings are, Gain 62, Volume 126, Bass 116, Mid 64 Treble 78 and Presence 74. Cab Model 4X12 Vintage 30s. Noise gate -48db. Pre FX Compressor- Sense 25:1 and Attack 10ms. FX Chorus 2- Speed 0.23hz, Depth 73, Feedback 64, Mix 65%. FX Reverb Small Room Mix 65%

Voodoo Lab MicroVibe, Settings- Intensity 9, Speed set between
5 1/2 to 6.

Guitar- Squire Strat modded with Kinman Noiseless Pickups using middle position. Patch cord- Planet Waves Gold Platted. No other FX used within the recording software on the guitar parts. The outro part of the song there are 4 guitars going at once doing different things. Listen closely. All using same settings.

Sonar 7 PE

Hi guys and gals! Robin Trowers-Bridge Of Sighs. V-Amp Pro with a VooDoo Lab MicroVibe.

Here is one sample using the V-Amp Pro on Brit Hi Gain. The settings are, Gain 62, Volume 126, Bass 116, Mid 64 Treble 78 and Presence 74. Cab Model 4X12 Vintage 30s. Noise gate -48db. Pre FX Compressor- Sense 25:1 and Attack 10ms. FX Chorus 2- Speed 0.23hz, Depth 73, Feedback 64, Mix 65%. FX Reverb Small Room Mix 65%

Voodoo Lab MicroVibe, Settings- Intensity 9, Speed set between
5 1/2 to 6.

Guitar- Squire Strat modded with Kinman Noiseless Pickups using middle position. Patch cord- Planet Waves Gold Platted. No other FX used within the recording software on the guitar parts. The outro part of the song there are 4 guitars going at once doing different things. Listen closely. All using same settings.

Sonar 7 PE

Just typing as i'm listening, i gotta say this is really testiment to the quality the V-Amps have to offer (great playing too :thumb: ), just a lovely tone, and definately a great sample for ppl interested in what it can do :)

Just typing as i'm listening, i gotta say this is really testiment to the quality the V-Amps have to offer (great playing too :thumb: ), just a lovely tone, and definately a great sample for ppl interested in what it can do :)

Thank you Avalon! Yeah,..I really like the V-amp pro! I had an XT Live and sold after a week of messing with and not getting anywhere. As for the price of the V-amp pro,..you can't beat it! I think it all comes down to getting used to what you have and if you tweak any of the modelers,..you can get any tone out of them that will work for you in any situation!
The other thing to think about is that about what,.. 20 years ago we didn't have these modelers or maybe 1 or 2 where out at the time but,..they kinda sucked. IMO,..You just beat a modeler to get your tone or sounds for the price.
It's funny,..that some peeps say tube amps are the way to go,..but when you see these guys playing live,..look at the floor in front of them and what do ya see,....stomp boxes and other processors to get the amp to sound different. I bet ya dollars to donuts,..that if you put a modeler through ,..say a 100 watt clean power amp into a 4x12 cab and a 100 watt Marshall all tube into the same cab,..in a concealed room that no one could see them,..then have a guitar player come in and do an A/B,.. they would not be able to tell the difference between the 2 set ups!
It all comes down to what ya like and what sound or tone you're looking for! It's all good though. Both modelers and tube amps are great!
It would be really nice if they added a Sustainer or feedback FX to
these modelers,...I would buy the pack instantly.

Johnny

Sounds excellent Johnny , a good testiment to the V-amp pro and definetly in the running with the others for sure :rock: :rock:
Thats the thing tho ive read alot of ppl's reviews about how crap something is and then when you see how long they tested it , most say about a day or two lol :lmao: .. i mean its impossible to get the best out of something in that space of time , lol i was still making discoverys about the podxt after 6 months and the same with the G9 , had it about 3 weeks or so now and im finally starting to get it sounding the way i want it to with the diffrent amps , still theres alot of the amps i need to mess around with , so its always a learning game with these things :)

Sounds excellent Johnny , a good testiment to the V-amp pro and definetly in the running with the others for sure :rock: :rock:
Thats the thing tho ive read alot of ppl's reviews about how crap something is and then when you see how long they tested it , most say about a day or two lol :lmao: .. i mean its impossible to get the best out of something in that space of time , lol i was still making discoverys about the podxt after 6 months and the same with the G9 , had it about 3 weeks or so now and im finally starting to get it sounding the way i want it to with the diffrent amps , still theres alot of the amps i need to mess around with , so its always a learning game with these things :)


Thanks man! I think that this is testiment that you can a wall of Marshall stacks out of one of these,..and this was done with single coil pickups!
Even though I made some mistakes in the song,..it's not bad for $180.

I totally agree 100%! It does take a lot of time,..I mean a real lot of time to tweak these modelers,..but after you've done this,..it's all uphill from there,..ya know!? I've had my Johnson 250 Millennium for like 3 years and also my Johnson 150 combo for like 10 years and I'm still learning what it can really do. A lot of work and time goes into making these modelers and I think they all do a good job for making music! Hats off to these tech guys and gals that come up with this kind of thing for US to make our music sound better!
:bowdown:
Johnny

Oh yeah BTW,..I'm gonna buy one of those new line6 all tube modeling amps. I tried the
head version at GC when I picked up my Scheter Hellraiser and this was a nice amp,..but I really didn't have the time to really mess with it and it was plugged into a 4x12 line6 cab. When I'm ready I'm going to bring my Marshall 4x12 down to the store and give it a workout. BUT,..I'm going to wait until they update this model,...or should I say the
2nd addition. They always do that,..ya know!!. They put a new amp out and then a year later it's better with a new model of the same amp! So,..I'll wait a bit for it!

Yeah,..I really like the V-amp pro! I had an XT Live and sold after a week of messing with and not getting anywhere.

Johnny
LOL! XT Live is more than enough for me! :lol: Course it´s crap for microphones, imo, that´s why I grabbed an m-audio Fast track pro.

I think your right Johnny , ive been pretty frustrated lately with the podxt cos trying to get 80s onwards tones for Ritchie Blackmore seems to be a holy legend in itself lol and Jim (Slicer) will tell you the same , his 70s tones are pretty easy to recreate, basically a overdriven marshall but from the late 70s its all smoke n mirrors with more mods then a swiss army knife :lol:
Cos of this ive kinda forgotten how good the modeller is , slowly pulling myself away from the holy grail and into other musicians i enjoy playing makes you realise that you can get alot of tones from these modellers for nearly most anything you want :)
With the G9 now i am a step closer i feel to getting the above tones closer but it also sounds excellent for the other styles i play aswell , so its all good stuff , mind you i would still love to have a Engl E650 Ritchie Blackmore sig amp with cabinets , if someone else was paying or if i won the lotto lol :D

LOL! XT Live is more than enough for me! :lol: Course it´s crap for microphones, imo, that´s why I grabbed an m-audio Fast track pro.

Lol ive always thought the normal xt was pretty good for that Tony, well steel stringer mic'd up, can't comment on a nylon for alittle while longer as yet , must admit my vocals sound better thru the G9 then the Xt :)

Heres alittle sound sample of the Zoom G9.2tt ,i did four parts in all just to show some of the diffrent amps in action , the first part was done using my Ibanez S series with the "Vox AC30tb crunch amp model" , the second part was using my Ibanez S series with the "BG Crunch (Mesa Boogie MkIII)amp model ", third part was using my Ibanez S series with "HK crunch channel amp model(Hughes & Ketner Triamp MkII)" , then last of all i used my Custom Guitar and my own built custom pickups with the "MS crunch model" (JCM 800 crunch channel) :)
The second part tone is actually my own tone that ive been working on for original works , the others i just quickly messed around with for the ocassion :)
Only mixing ive done is just the guitar levels, what you hear is the natural sound of the amp models, also i had no noisegate on either :)

Lol ive always thought the normal xt was pretty good for that Tony, well steel stringer mic'd up, can't comment on a nylon for alittle while longer as yet , must admit my vocals sound better thru the G9 then the Xt :)

FS pro is great for steel strings too, :woot:. (Not before some post-production for sure), :p. Straight clean with no add-ons, same as the stuff I sent your bro for that jam thingie.

nice tones mart :)

i liked the 3rd one best, i reckon i could get a decent thomas blug tone outa that zoom with a strat. :bowdown:
i reckon thats the best modeler out there, from what ive heard.

regards,
jim.

Both samples sound great guys, get some lovely tones out of that G9.2tt Mart, i'm sure alot of ppl will be interested to hear that in action :thumb:

The acoustic sounds great too Tony, i never knew you used the Fast Track Pro, i might have to look one up, i've not manged to get the best out X3L mic'd up yet, my voice has been abit out of sorts, and i've not recorded much on acoustic for a while, if i can't settling on something for that, maybe the FTP might be a decent option :)

that sounded sweet tony :thumb:

regards,
jim.

Great sample Tony , must admit ive never tried FS pro but i might have to check it out as i do like doing alot of acoustic stuff like yourself :)
Cheers Jim , yeah it sounds nice does the Hughes & Ketner Amps , i reckon with single coils might sing much better as with my humbuckers /stacked humbuckers its pretty bassy , same with the Diezel Herbert amps to , still nothing that can't be tweaked out , still i like the second one the best , that for me is the kind of tone i like using for my own tones , still all of them are on my own patch line so i will probably tweak them to use on jams/originals :D

Great samples guys! I like the tone of the G9-2tt Very nice! Tony! good stuff man!! All around good!


Johnny

MArt the G9 sounds awesome mate:bowdown:

FS pro is great for steel strings too, :woot:. (Not before some post-production for sure), :p. Straight clean with no add-ons, same as the stuff I sent your bro for that jam thingie.


that sounds awesome Tony:woot:

Right, first sample for you, its the Pod X3Live, played on an Ibanez S series.
The whole clip is guitars only, first off a double tracked rhythm off Petrucci's "Curve", second clip is a Clean with chorus & delay setting, the third clip is a Marshall style rhythm, its my EJ setting for "Camels Night Out".


awesome gotta love the X3, I will try sticking some dual tone stuff up for your Jim to hear:)

Hi guys and gals! Robin Trowers-Bridge Of Sighs. V-Amp Pro with a VooDoo Lab MicroVibe.

Here is one sample using the V-Amp Pro on Brit Hi Gain. The settings are, Gain 62, Volume 126, Bass 116, Mid 64 Treble 78 and Presence 74. Cab Model 4X12 Vintage 30s. Noise gate -48db. Pre FX Compressor- Sense 25:1 and Attack 10ms. FX Chorus 2- Speed 0.23hz, Depth 73, Feedback 64, Mix 65%. FX Reverb Small Room Mix 65%

Voodoo Lab MicroVibe, Settings- Intensity 9, Speed set between
5 1/2 to 6.

Guitar- Squire Strat modded with Kinman Noiseless Pickups using middle position. Patch cord- Planet Waves Gold Platted. No other FX used within the recording software on the guitar parts. The outro part of the song there are 4 guitars going at once doing different things. Listen closely. All using same settings.

Sonar 7 PE

Killer stuff Johnny tone to die for there:bowdown:

Awe thanks guys, lol, just noodling a bit.
Great sample Tony , must admit ive never tried FS pro but i might have to check it out as i do like doing alot of acoustic stuff like yourself

If you (or whoever) wants to purchase it, DON´T. The reason I bought it was for it being the only external SC with phantom power for the mic and ASIO running device there was available at a local music store. That was a few months back, before J told me about that german e-store. There are plenty of similar ones that do the same job and are a lot cheaper than the ft pro.

All these samples have sounded great to me. Particularly liked your double tracked rhythm tone Avalon. Johnny that was awesome from the V amp and Bahamut awesome sound on all your samples. Tony, your mic'd sound is crystal clear. Great thread!:woot: I suppose with the modellers unless you know what may be a decent ball park to start it would be a matter of working on it and prising the tone out of it? I know i have spent ages trying to get something decent from my Digitech RP50 and i have maybe 2 rhythm tones and 2 lead tones that i can feel confident in using.

Rather than subject you to these though, like Tony i have something in the acoustic category for you below. Sample 1 is my acoustic plugged directly into a Tapco Link Audio Interface ( much the same as the FTP i think) using a Seymour Duncan Woody pick up (fits into the soundhole with lead to the interface). Sample 2 is my acoustic mic'd going into the same interface. I added a touch of chorus to both with the same plug in at the same levels

Two lovely samples Stereophony, i especially liked the mic'd up tone, sounds like the audio interface doesn't colour the sound much on either input, great stuff :thumb:

I'll have to try and get some samples up from the X3L acoustic, i was fiddling with a dual tone, but not perfected it yet, i'll see what i can do over the weekend though :)

Two lovely samples Stereophony, i especially liked the mic'd up tone, sounds like the audio interface doesn't colour the sound much on either input, great stuff :thumb:

I'll have to try and get some samples up from the X3L acoustic, i was fiddling with a dual tone, but not perfected it yet, i'll see what i can do over the weekend though :)

Cheers Avalon, i prefer the mic'd tone too although i don't dislike the pick up. The only draw back with it is that i have to turn the gain right up on the interface to beable to record at a decent volume. This creates a load of hiss that you hear when there's any gaps in playing. So out come the plug ins to raise the volume.

Yeah i'd love to hear some acoustic from the X3L. Keep 'em coming i say, this is a great thread.:thumb:

Cheers Avalon, i prefer the mic'd tone too although i don't dislike the pick up. The only draw back with it is that i have to turn the gain right up on the interface to beable to record at a decent volume. This creates a load of hiss that you hear when there's any gaps in playing. So out come the plug ins to raise the volume.

Yeah i'd love to hear some acoustic from the X3L. Keep 'em coming i say, this is a great thread.:thumb:

I have the same prob on the Pod too, my vocal and acoustic settings have +12db as standard from the patch settings (which works outside the master volume & tone volume), and the recording level in general seems quite low, even on electric guitar :headscratch: , but its possible i've not found the right setting in the new version of Gearbox yet, because it was never an issue on the XT, so it might be something i'm doing.

Its great to see the thread has taken off though, big thanks to you and everyone who's contributing to it :yourock:

sample2 was nice..sample1 was too cloudy for me, a dead sound :(

keep em coming chaps :) some stomp boxes would be nice.

regards,
jim.

keep em coming chaps :) some stomp boxes would be nice.

regards,
jim.

Bring it on Jim, :lmao:, it´s just a matter of plugging in, you know, :woot:

Right guys, here is a tester with the acoustic into the Pod X3L.
First sample is via the SM-57 Mic -> Pod X3L, the second is the acoustic direct to the Pod X3L, then the third and forth samples are both the above tones on dual tone mode, with the Mic'd up signal just infront.
I like the dual tone best tbh, the direct just backs up the Mic'd signal up abit and fills in some of EQ gaps imo.
As you'll hear though, plenty of fresh air in the mic'd signal though, both setting are just straight to pre-amp with no effects other then a touch of reverb.

Way cool! Me likes the mic´d one better over them acoustics, both from Stereophony and Avalon. I know hiss is there, but I like it that way. You can always mitigate it a bit while mixing.

Way cool! Me likes the mic´d one better over them acoustics, both from Stereophony and Avalon. I know hiss is there, but I like it that way. You can always mitigate it a bit while mixing.

Oh yeah, if i took it over to Adobe, i could probably get it silient, so its not a huge deal the noise, but i just thought i'd leave the samples pre-production so you hear what its like as pure as possible :)

Well acoustic into X3L works a treat then mate!: Very, very nice Avalon, I'd say the straight mic'd tone was my favourite but i'm sure there would be loads of scenarios were you could use the dual tone, depends on what song your doing and what feel you want to get across. If you were dioing just acoustic and vox then you could use the mic'd only and if you were doing a tune with an underlying acoustic rhythm then that dual tone would be just the ticket in my opinion. Anyway enough waffle. Great stuff and nice playing mate.:thumb:

nice playing jam, dual tone sounds surprisingly good :)

i woudnt have thought that would work on acoustic, not as good as open mic but good enough for a lot of tunes.

regards,
jim.

Excellent samples there Stereo , the first sample was great with a kinda smoothy sound to it , the second sample sounded lovely and crystal clear , beautiful chord arrangement aswell mate :rock: :rock:

The X3 sounds excellent for the acoustic Jam , i also prefer the mic'd up samples tho , i just don't think you can beat the authenticy as with a acoustic direct they sound abit wooden imo , still both Stereo's and yours sound excellent with both :)
I will try to tweak the G9 for some acoustic settings , it has a acoustic simulator which sounds pretty much like a acoustic via direct , still wondering the best way to use a acoustic mic'd up on it atm , i will try some acoustic samples tho soon :)

Thanks everyone, i gotta admit i like dual tone quite alot, i might try it with the mic going to two different pre-amps in dual tone mode, that might sound interesting :) (although a tad noisy maybe).

The direct sound i quite like too, you can't beat it for clean and clear recording, but the mic'd sounds always have alot more life to them i think, all depends what you're recording or playing i guess though :)

Excellent samples there Stereo , the first sample was great with a kinda smoothy sound to it , the second sample sounded lovely and crystal clear , beautiful chord arrangement aswell mate :rock: :rock:


Cheers mate, the 1st sample is an an outro to an original piece a did a while back. The 2nd is the chord progression to a song called Traffic by the Stereophonics, as much as id love to call that my own unfortunatlely its not:lol:

Well i had a quick fiddle with the G9 with the acoustic mic'd up , this is what i got lol , i don't think it sounds much diffrent to a xt or x3 sound wise :)
I had the noisegate on about 1 on this , but the noisegates on this are abit funny where they vary the volume alittle touch , so you will notice the fresh air noise change as it goes through oddly :lol:
Please excuse my cold fingers lol but gives you a idea of how it sounds :)

Sounds lovely Mart, like all our Mic'd samples so far, plenty of fresh air in it, but can't argue with the tone it gets, sounds excellent, lovely playing too :)

Thanks Jam , just listening to my podxt acoustic recordings to this and i do like the sound of this one actually , still im gonna get a nylon acoustic in the near future , maybe a one with a nice cut away for the neck or something along those lines , cos i love the nylon sound , don't like the massive necks and the bodys that block the upper part of the neck :tard:
Also a nylon would suite my style well as i like playing spanish / neo classical (not the shred so much but the style) styles on the acoustic along with the classical stuff , so will hopefully will be able to afford one later on in the year :D

nice playing mart, tones nice...a touch too toppy if anything, which is probably due to trying to capture blackers acoustic sound [ i done the same thing!]
his acoustic sound is so crystal clear, best unplugged tone ive heard i think.
noticed quite a bit of background hiss, diy noisegate project next on list?

regards,
jim.

Yeah, very nice Bahamut! Lovely playing style. Cracking tone , as your bro said, all the mic'd tones seem to stand out when they are out there on their own. I for one would love to hear you play a nylon sring, so go get!!!:lol:

Theres a bit of hiss on all the acoustic takes here esp the DI samples, what would you guys do to get rid of it? Do you have any software that eliminates unwanted noise?

nice playing mart, tones nice...a touch too toppy if anything, which is probably due to trying to capture blackers acoustic sound [ i done the same thing!]
his acoustic sound is so crystal clear, best unplugged tone ive heard i think.
noticed quite a bit of background hiss, diy noisegate project next on list?

regards,
jim.

Yeah, very nice Bahamut! Lovely playing style. Cracking tone , as your bro said, all the mic'd tones seem to stand out when they are out there on their own. I for one would love to hear you play a nylon sring, so go get!!!:lol:

Theres a bit of hiss on all the acoustic takes here esp the DI samples, what would you guys do to get rid of it? Do you have any software that eliminates unwanted noise?



Cheers Jim , yeah that is the prob i find with the steel stringer is when i play lead i like hearing all the notes in clarity , but to have the low strings sounding halfway decent i have to have abit more treb/presence to my setting , i reckon a nylon stringer might not be so much of a prob in that sense :)
Lol yeah im not sure what im gonna do about the noisegate thing atm , i definetly don't like the built in ones on the G9 but what i might do for the time being is when recording properly i will use the G9 through the podxt and just use its noisegate if need be , altho its no such a prob with the electric just the acoustic which is abit noisy.
As far as building a noisegate theres quite abit to them altho that dosen't bother me as such its getting hold of the microchips which is a prob , don't seem a standard issue over here in the uk which means having to find a equivelant then that might have a diffrent amount of pins to the original chip in the schematic etc , so might end up buying one.
Thanks Stereo , ooh i plan to later on in the year mate , the urge is to much to resist lol and im sure i would find many uses for it :D
Well i normally use Adobe 3 and theres like a hiss reduction vst on there to help reduce the hiss noise , (i can't remember if it was on Adobe or whether i got the vst from somewhere ) its pretty useful as it just takes of the edge of the hissing but with the G9 i might well have to have a noisegate as there is to much hiss i found and even using the hiss reduction there was still a fair bit , but you might wanna try that out mate , im not sure if you use Adobe 3?

Just thinking im pretty sure i saw a decent vst program that is like a on comp noisegate , i was reading about it and ppl reckon it was excellent , if i can find it or remember where i saw it i will upload it for us all :)

Theres a bit of hiss on all the acoustic takes here esp the DI samples, what would you guys do to get rid of it? Do you have any software that eliminates unwanted noise?

Well what i do is not bother to noise gate on the Pod, mid'd up atleast, as it cuts some of the dynamics, then filler it out on Adobe using the Restoration -> Capture Noise Reduction Profile (on the clean air before you start playing), then Noise Reduction Process.
You have to fiddle with it until you get a good reduction to note ratio, sometimes if there is alot of noise it will cut dynamics out of you playing, but you just reduce the effect slightly until you get a nice balance.
Depending how much noise you get, sometimes its possible to get it completely silent, but on a Mic'd up acoustic with lots of noise like my recording was, you're more likely to get a more 'noise gate' effect with it, where the air is there when you're playing (reduced but still there), but it cuts the hum when you're not playing to practically silence.

In an ideal world, i'd like to record with far less noise in the first place though, as nice as the mic'd versions sound, they are abit to noise for my liking atm, its something i'll have to try and work on with the Pod.

Yeah the noise is a prob Stereo , but its strange on the podxt i hardly get any mic noise , however my acoustic dosen't sound as lively through there as it does through the G9 , but cos of the noise im having to use the podxt for the time being until i get a noise gate :)

Thought i would post afew pics of some of the various things i use or built with what sound samples i have done on here , first of is the G9 in action (yeah it does need a dust lol ) :lol:
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4610/g901kp0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Abit closer ,
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6213/g902kj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9048/g904cm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1462/g903cg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

One of my overdrive pedal i built myself recently , good little pedal aswell :)
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6889/dod250selfbuiltoverdivejm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This one is of alittle preamp i built myself aswell , i could really do with a smaller box like the above but i had it handy so just used it lol , i will change it into a smaller box soon tho :D
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/341/selfbuiltpreamp004gg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/341/selfbuiltpreamp004gg1.92d2feeb9f.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=79&i=selfbuiltpreamp004gg1.jpg)

Next on the agenda , a noisegate lol :banana: :naughty:

Awe man, beautiful stuff Mart! Remember John Dowland? or Luis de Milan? :banana:. BUT! Sounds real skinny through my cans man! ( I mean treblish). Boom up that mofo!

[QUOTE=Bahamut;99023]Thought i would post afew pics of some of the various things i use or built with what sound samples i have done on here.



1st up that Zoom looks the business! 2ndly how the hell do you go about making our own stuff? Do you have an electronics background? That little O/D pedal looks really cool. Ive seen you do pick ups too. Mind boggling mate!!! :headscratch: :yourock:

Awe man, beautiful stuff Mart! Remember John Dowland? or Luis de Milan? :banana:. BUT! Sounds real skinny through my cans man! ( I mean treblish). Boom up that mofo!

1st up that Zoom looks the business! 2ndly how the hell do you go about making our own stuff? Do you have an electronics background? That little O/D pedal looks really cool. Ive seen you do pick ups too. Mind boggling mate!!! :headscratch: :yourock:



I certainly do Tony , still got those you sent me along with the Julian Bream songs to , love anything remotely acoustic and especially classical as you well know lol :)
Yeah thats the curse of the steel stringer mate , lacks all round clarity or just has far to much on the top end , but not to fear i plan on getting some sort of classical acoustic sometime this year , actually you know we should definetly collab on a original or cover acoustic wise sometime Tony , i know your just as crazy about the acoustic scene as i am , would be great fun :rock: :rock:
Might even have a crack at one of the Julian Bream songs once i get a nylon stringer , if not i will definetly tackle some Blackmores Night instrumentals with one :D
Cheers Stereo , yeah i must confess im somewhat of a electronic geek lol , i find it fascinating and love learning /building diffrent things , im hoping to maybe build a noisegate soon if i can get hold of the microchips i need for it , you should look into it mate cos you can build alot of the pedals n stuff out there for a fraction of the price they actually cost to buy , i mean that overdrive pedal cost me about £8 for the bits with the box lol , the model i built it on they shift for about £40 retail price , it just requires alot of patience and the willingness to learn :)

actually you know we should definetly collab on a original or cover acoustic wise sometime Tony , i know your just as crazy about the acoustic scene as i am , would be great fun :rock: :rock:



Sounds like fun. It´s got to be an original, as I am clueless for learning music.

Sounds like fun. It´s got to be an original, as I am clueless for learning music.

Lol well np mate here , i just finished a acoustic track but im gonna wait til i get a nylon before i do anymore acoustic songs , won't be long before i get one tho hopefully :D
Once i have one tho , we can try out to some acoustic originals for sure Tony and i look forward to it for sure :headbang:

Once i have one tho , we can try out to some acoustic originals for sure Tony and i look forward to it for sure :headbang:

Sissy, :banana: No prob. Mother Patience gives me a call once in a while. :P

Sissy, :banana: No prob. Mother Patience gives me a call once in a while. :P

Lmao , well in that case bring it on , nylon or no nylon lol :headbang: :headbang:

Hi guys, another sample for you, this time on my Harley Benton HBB400TBK Bass guitar, into the Pod X3L.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_hbb400tbk_ebass.htm

Gotta say i really enjoy playing the bass, its great fun, and hopefully this sample with give you a good idea of how it sounds in a band.
The recording i did was standing in for Dave LaRue on John Petrucci's "Damage Control", back when i was on tour with him :lol: j/k, but through the magic of Adobe, i silence the bass, and played along, hopefully you'll like it, and you must excuse my playing, its the first time i've played this piece in a few weeks :)

Been trying to listen to this for what seems like ages but always something cropping up! Because my ears are still like cloth i still find bass lines quite hard to pick in song situations ( don't get me wrong i can hear its there just the tone and subtlties go amiss unless i concentrate).

Anyway, that bass line sounded great IMO Av, in some spots i could feel it as well as hear it ( does that make sense?) Im presuming this is through the X3L?
Also im finding that im getting to grips with the bass far quicker than guitar, how are you finding it? From the sounds of it you are a master already.

Ive just got the Ampeg bass plug in that the guys here helped me out with so ill try over the next week to put up some bass samples. Maybe through the RP50 alone then the difference the plug in makes.

Would love to hear some more bass samples..... JOHNNY!!!:lol:

Been trying to listen to this for what seems like ages but always something cropping up! Because my ears are still like cloth i still find bass lines quite hard to pick in song situations ( don't get me wrong i can hear its there just the tone and subtlties go amiss unless i concentrate).

Anyway, that bass line sounded great IMO Av, in some spots i could feel it as well as hear it ( does that make sense?) Im presuming this is through the X3L?
Also im finding that im getting to grips with the bass far quicker than guitar, how are you finding it? From the sounds of it you are a master already.

Ive just got the Ampeg bass plug in that the guys here helped me out with so ill try over the next week to put up some bass samples. Maybe through the RP50 alone then the difference the plug in makes.

Would love to hear some more bass samples..... JOHNNY!!!:lol:


Thanks mate, i gotta say i'm absolutely loving it, although i'm far from a master of it yet lol, once you get in the mind set and start learning the shapes that work for the chords its quite easy to do the basics, mainly i think because we've both played guitar and can transfer alot of that know how straight to the bass, thats how i've found it anyhow.
I'm working on a Petrucci track atm, and the bass work in that is just lovely to learn and play, i'm not sure when that one will be making it to the covers section though, but hopefully it will be worth the wait lol, with any luck the guitaring won't be to shabby either :lol:

But i really do enjoy playing the bass, especially Dave LaRue's style, im just jamming along to alot of songs and finding how certain things are done, but most of it is very similar to playing the guitar theory-wise, its just applied in a different way, and for writing songs, its just awesome, its played a very important role in two songs i've wrote so far ("The Phantom Grove" being the first, and the second one i'm now putting the finishing touches on).

I'll try to find some more songs to do samples on, or even something solo, just gotta think of what lol.

Sounds neat! I need to buy one of those 9 volt batteries again, damnit! Would be cool if you leave out the backer or whatever.

Sounds neat! I need to buy one of those 9 volt batteries again, damnit! Would be cool if you leave out the backer or whatever.

Thanks mate, I'll see if i can find something suitable to play with no/very little instruments in the way :)

Been trying to listen to this for what seems like ages but always something cropping up! Because my ears are still like cloth i still find bass lines quite hard to pick in song situations ( don't get me wrong i can hear its there just the tone and subtlties go amiss unless i concentrate).

Anyway, that bass line sounded great IMO Av, in some spots i could feel it as well as hear it ( does that make sense?) Im presuming this is through the X3L?
Also im finding that im getting to grips with the bass far quicker than guitar, how are you finding it? From the sounds of it you are a master already.

Ive just got the Ampeg bass plug in that the guys here helped me out with so ill try over the next week to put up some bass samples. Maybe through the RP50 alone then the difference the plug in makes.

Would love to hear some more bass samples..... JOHNNY!!!:lol:


I will post just some bass lines tomorrow using all my Bass gear! Johnson J Station,.Amplitube VST, Ampeg VST, Direct, and V-Amp Bass Pro! I am curious to hear what one sounds the best! I'm putting my money on the Amplitube VST plug-in!
I'll be posting just the bass lines,..with no backers!

You have to take into account that each setting will make it sound different,..ya know!?,..hundreds of diffeent tones are possible....so,..this will be one tone from each that I always use on my tracks.

Johnny

Hi guys and gals! Here are 5 Bass Samples. I don't use my fingers to play bass,..I use a pick,..MY Bad. Anyway,..The tones explanation is on the Mp3 of what I used. The last sample is the same sample that I played,..but with drums and the whole deal. (I wanted to hear the bass sample with drums rhythm guitar and solo guitar)
:naughty:
Johnny

Hi guys and gals! Here are 5 Bass Samples. I don't use my fingers to play bass,..I use a pick,..MY Bad. Anyway,..The tones explanation is on the Mp3 of what I used. The last sample is the same sample that I played,..but with drums and the whole deal. (I wanted to hear the bass sample with drums rhythm guitar and solo guitar)
:naughty:
Johnny

Cheers Johnny!!!! I'll reply when i can string a sentence together. Rule1. be sober! :banana:

nice post john :thumb:

i much prefered sample 1, the others seemed too muddy to me.

regards,
jim.

Great stuff Johnny, i liked 1 & 2 most, all sounded great though, you are getting some lovely sounds out of all the settings, great work :thumb:

Great stuff Johnny, i liked 1 & 2 most, all sounded great though, you are getting some lovely sounds out of all the settings, great work :thumb:

Thank you Av! We are all still learning,..that's for sure. Like I said above,..if we take the same sample....we can get it to sound different all day long,..ya know! I guess it's a matter of taste and what we need the song to sound like. That's what's so great about modelers.,..tweak tweak tweak!
Can you imagine what these are going to sound like 10 years from now!

Stereo,..how's the hangover man! LMFAO...:duh:

Stereo,..how's the hangover man! LMFAO...:duh:


Sshhhh man, not so loud!:o

Great samples Johnny, i thought 1 was the best followed by 3! Cool to hear how the same line with the same bass can sound different just by tweaking as you said. Great stuff.:banana:

Sshhhh man, not so loud!:o

Great samples Johnny, i thought 1 was the best followed by 3! Cool to hear how the same line with the same bass can sound different just by tweaking as you said. Great stuff.:banana:

Thanks bro! Tons of different things you can do! Always fun though!!
Talk to ya soon!
:moon:
Johnny

Here's some sound samples of the 3 pickup configs on the Peavey Wolfgang Goldtop using a 'Angus' setting I made up for the PODxt. I've backed of the volume on some of them so you can hear how the model reacts to volume changes. They are a bit muddier than I'd like because the pups on this guitar are more powerful than the rest put together. First is the bridge, then middle, then neck.

These were done a couple of years ago when we had a similar thread...can't remember if it was here or 101.

I tried to do a kind of similar thing to Johnny here with some bass tones ive been messing with tonight, in an attempt to find something half decent that i could maybe tweak further into something decent. The 3 samples in the 1st audio clip are all through a Digitech RP50 (guitar modeller) using different amp models. There's no effects and EQ is flat.

1.Amp model based on a 'British Combo'
2.Amp model based on a 'Boutique' ( hissy hissy)
3.Amp model based on a 'Crunchy tube combo'.

The second audio clip is the bass plugged directly into my audio interface, i then put them through 3 different amp models using Amplitube Ampeg plug in. The levels are the presets with everything pretty much set at 12'oclock and flat EQ.

1. BA-500 amp
2. SVT-4 Pro
3. B15-R

Excuse the playing! I just played the 1st thing that came to mind. ( They are only 20 secs each sample).

Here's some sound samples of the 3 pickup configs on the Peavey Wolfgang Goldtop using a 'Angus' setting I made up for the PODxt. I've backed of the volume on some of them so you can hear how the model reacts to volume changes. They are a bit muddier than I'd like because the pups on this guitar are more powerful than the rest put together. First is the bridge, then middle, then neck.

These were done a couple of years ago when we had a similar thread...can't remember if it was here or 101.

Ooh, only just noticed this one. You've got one awesome sounding guitar there Chris. My personal favourite was the bridge pup, although they all sounded great. Just a bit more clarity i think. The patch from the PODXT was great too. I have to say that most / all the people here get really good stuff out of the PODs. Kudos to the tone tweakers!!!

I tried to do a kind of similar thing to Johnny here with some bass tones ive been messing with tonight, in an attempt to find something half decent that i could maybe tweak further into something decent. The 3 samples in the 1st audio clip are all through a Digitech RP50 (guitar modeller) using different amp models. There's no effects and EQ is flat.

1.Amp model based on a 'British Combo'
2.Amp model based on a 'Boutique' ( hissy hissy)
3.Amp model based on a 'Crunchy tube combo'.

The second audio clip is the bass plugged directly into my audio interface, i then put them through 3 different amp models using Amplitube Ampeg plug in. The levels are the presets with everything pretty much set at 12'oclock and flat EQ.

1. BA-500 amp
2. SVT-4 Pro
3. B15-R

Excuse the playing! I just played the 1st thing that came to mind. ( They are only 20 secs each sample).

See,..I like the second audio clips,...(first one out of those clips) But then again I like to hear that bottom end on songs,..I've always have!! Nice man!

Johnny

See,..I like the second audio clips,...(first one out of those clips) But then again I like to hear that bottom end on songs,..I've always have!! Nice man!

Johnny

Johnny i 100% agree with you. To my ears the second clips are much better and the plug in makes a massive difference. I was just checking whether i was right or not. Ive attached a couple of screen shots from Windows Media Player. ( This maybe really old news so bear with me.) If you right click the screen when a song is playing and choose bars and waves then choose either 'ocean mist or 'fire storm' it seems to me to give a kind of EQ graph as the song is playing. The 1st clip is thru the RP50 and the 2nd is thru amplitube. Notice how far raised the left side of the screen is ( showing low end, compared to the second which has more mids???) This is the same clip! Although you can hear it clearly, just thought it was fun to see it ( if im right that is!)

Cheers bro.:)

Johnny i 100% agree with you. To my ears the second clips are much better and the plug in makes a massive difference. I was just checking whether i was right or not. Ive attached a couple of screen shots from Windows Media Player. ( This maybe really old news so bear with me.) If you right click the screen when a song is playing and choose bars and waves then choose either 'ocean mist or 'fire storm' it seems to me to give a kind of EQ graph as the song is playing. The 1st clip is thru the RP50 and the 2nd is thru amplitube. Notice how far raised the left side of the screen is ( showing low end, compared to the second which has more mids???) This is the same clip! Although you can hear it clearly, just thought it was fun to see it ( if im right that is!)

Cheers bro.:)


Yes,..you are right! When more low end is added,..you will see it on a graph like that. But,..Danny has a different approach to EQ on Bass tracks. But you need a 32 band Eq or something like that. He explained that the human ear only can hear so far down and then the rest is wasted sound. I really don't remember what he said. You may want to PM him about bass eqing. I think if you like the way it sounds,..then it's good. But,..if there's a way of doing proper Bass eqing,..then I would love to learn this. It's kinda weird man,..when I record bass lines,..sometimes certain notes just disappear. I think this it what he's talking about,...proper eqing the bass so you can hear every note,..no matter if the bass is boomy or not!!?? BTW,..Your bass sounds great man.

Johnny :naughty:

I tried to do a kind of similar thing to Johnny here with some bass tones ive been messing with tonight, in an attempt to find something half decent that i could maybe tweak further into something decent. The 3 samples in the 1st audio clip are all through a Digitech RP50 (guitar modeller) using different amp models. There's no effects and EQ is flat.

1.Amp model based on a 'British Combo'
2.Amp model based on a 'Boutique' ( hissy hissy)
3.Amp model based on a 'Crunchy tube combo'.

The second audio clip is the bass plugged directly into my audio interface, i then put them through 3 different amp models using Amplitube Ampeg plug in. The levels are the presets with everything pretty much set at 12'oclock and flat EQ.

1. BA-500 amp
2. SVT-4 Pro
3. B15-R

Excuse the playing! I just played the 1st thing that came to mind. ( They are only 20 secs each sample).


Cool samples mate, i quite like clip 1, sample 3, nice funky kinda bass, but i think overall the second set of clips had the better sound to them, sounds like Amplitude does quite a few things very well (having listened to the Metal guitar Amplitude in action earlier in the week).

Great stuff :thumb:

Hi guys, here's another little tester from the Pod X3L, and this is a tone i've been fiddling with now and again for that early Queen sound that is Brian Mays Guitar Orchestra.

The first sample is the intro to "Dreamers Ball", which i think is pretty close, compairing it to the original, i think i need to maybe just EQ some of the presence off, as his guitars always sit back in the mix abit, but other then that (and in Adobe it would be a very easy fix) i'm very happy with it.

The second sample is the same tone, but giving a "Brighton Rock" style delay, and playing the only bit i can remember Brian doing on stage lol, i used to do a whole section like this a good few years ago, but its one of those things i soon forget, but hopefully the part i recorded gives a nice idea of the 1600ms stereo delay in action (offset 50% so it creates a 1600ms left, 800ms right delay).
Hope you like it :)

Looking thru my old hard drive (it lost the operating system but kept all the files :dunno: ) I found this demo of the Ibanez 470 I had for a short while. The pups were V's I think? Not really up on Ibanez stuff these days but listening to this clip, they were REALLY hot but couldn't get away with the floating trem or the neck.

Somone may be able to enlighten me on the pups?

Thought i'd add this to the T&T threat too, for perminant record :thumb:

Hi guys, this is something i've been thinking about doing for a while, pitting the Zoom G9.2tt against the Line 6 Pod X3L, and here it is (i'll add a copy of this to the Tried & Tested Thread tommorow for perminent record)

First off, although both black with silver hardware, and lit up like christmas trees, thats really where the simularitys end, the two units are very different, both in sound and operation.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/line6_pod_x3_live.htm

http://www.thomann.de/gb/zoom_g92tt_guitar_fx_pedal.htm

The G9 is an Amp and Stomp modeller with effects, where as the X3L is an Amp Modeller with stomps and effects, and you might be surprised to hear what that means in operation.
Basically, with the Pod you can select your Amp, Cabinet and then assign the stomps and effects to it, but on the G9 you can only model either an Amp with its respective cabinet, or a Stomp box, you can't actually put the stomps infront of the Amp, which is a big downer, but you still can add effects as with the X3L.

The X3L is not without faults either though, the onboard Compressors are a joke, forcing you to use third party stomps infront of the X3L (i use the Boss CS-3) if you want to get anything compressed, which is a huge disadvantage over the G9, which has that area sorted, although in its case, you might have to use an overdrive pedal or distortion infront of the G9 to drive it for some sounds.

On the stats side, the X3L has the more impressive list, with more Amps (Guitar, Bass and Mic), Effects, multiple inputs, Dual Tone capabilitys, but one less expression pedal then the G9, Line 6 are practically the old masters of the Modelling game, and on paper its very hard to bet against the Pod, but we all know stats don't always mean its a done deal.

The Sounds:

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As you'd expect, both the G9 and the X3L have some very decent sounds in them, i've been using the X3L for quite some time now, and really like it, but it was very interesting to compair the sounds from X3L to that of the G9, as they both have alot of Amps in common, so that was the basis for the test, compairing 3 of the Amps both the G9 & the X3L model.

I decided to try 3 Amps, the Fender Twin Verb for the Clean tests, the Marshall JCM800 for the overdriven/distorted rhythm, and the Peavey 5150 for the modern high gain style, there are 4 samples of each amp, 2 from each unit, playing something that suits the style of the tone (hopefully lol).
Each tone/patch was made from scratch for the test to hopefully keep things on an even playing field, as i didn't think it would be that fair to pit the G9 against my settings that have had alot of time put into them, plus this is a straight Amps & Effects battle, no stomps or any external pedals of any sort were used, so its basic Amps with the onboard effects, minimum tweaking, no post Eq'ing, no post production or anything else, i just played all these roughly, and off memory, so try to ignore my playing lol but this is how they sound :)

Fender Twin Verb, Zoom G9.2tt & Line 6 Pod X3L:

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The First two samples are the G9 in action, playing one part of the main riff from Hotel California,
and the clean section from The Ministry Of Lost Souls, the setting uses the Fender Twin Verb,
with Comp, Delay, Reverb, and the second of the two samples has chorus.

The Second two samples are the X3L, the same riffs, on the same amp, with the same effects.

Clean 1 - G9 (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5911&d=1215884227)

Clean 2 - G9 (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5912&d=1215884227)

Clean 1 - X3L (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5913&d=1215884227)

Clean 2 - X3L (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5914&d=1215884227)

Marshall JCM800, Zoom G9.2tt & Line 6 Pod X3L:

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The first two samples the G9, sample 1 is a piece of rhythm from Lifes Been Good, sample 2 is the riffs from Life In The Fast Lane, and Centerfield, the setting uses the Marshall JCM800, with Comp, Delay and Reverb.

Again, as above, but this played on the X3L through the same amp and effect chain.

Distorted 1 - G9 (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5915&d=1215884392)

Distorted 2 - G9 (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5916&d=1215884392)

Distorted 1 - X3L (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5917&d=1215884392)

Distorted 2 - X3L (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5918&d=1215884392)

Peavey 5150, Zoom G9.2tt & Line 6 Pod X3L:

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The first two samples are again the G9, the first sample plays a piece of Rhythm from Petrucci's Curve, the second sample plays abit from Damage Control, on the Peavey 5150, with Comp & Delay.

As above, but on the X3L, same riffs, amp and effects used.

Modern High Rhythm - G9 (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5919&d=1215884558)

Modern High Lead - G9 (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5920&d=1215884558)

Modern High Rhythm - X3L (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5921&d=1215884558)

Modern High Lead - X3L (http://www.guitarblast.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5922&d=1215884558)

The Conclusion....

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I gotta say this is a really tough one to call, for all the bells and whistles the X3L has, the G9 has the edge over it in some areas, for me the clean tones of the G9 are miles better, you can hear the comp doing its job, and even see it on the wave editor, the Comps on the Pod are just useless, and this really hurts the X3L in so many areas, legato is a doddle with the CS-3 infront (and thats not exactly a great compressor), the clean settings sound miles better, the distorted settings do, its just so poor on the Pod, the G9 shows it up there, the Pod shouldn't need a Boss pedal infront.

The G9 noisegate is something that isn't quite up to scratch, its either cutting notes off or letting it hum like the valves in an old tv set, the noisegate is better on the X3L, but still far from perfect, the decay option might aswell not be there for instance as it doesn't change the gate at all.

The G9 does also realistically need some stomps infront, if i was using it, i'd probably try a Tube Screamer or put my Boss DS-1 infront, just to give it abit more poke where needed, and it does almost seem to be designed with that in mind, the G9 works great with stomps and other effects in the chain, more like a real amp head does (the tubes at work maybe), where as the Pod doesn't like distortion or overdrive pedals at all in my experience, the only things it does seem to like is Wahs, Whammys and compressors, which given the state of the onboard comps is quite fortunate.

The valves(tubes) on the G9 really do work too, you can hear that bit more life and depth on the clean->overdriven settings, how you pick really does carry over to the sound so much more then on the Pods, the Amps all match the Pod for sound quality, although they do sound different to each other, the effects also match the X3L blow for blow, its just not got quite as much of everything.
The wah pedals on both are about the same quality to my ears, and quite frankly not as good as a Jim Dunlop or Bad Horsie, my JD 535Q wipes the floor with them all, but they still sound pretty good.

In operation, there is also not alot between them, nither are as straight forward as the V-Amp for example to program, but i feel they both have the sound quality there if you have the time to spend tweaking it, the X3L is cerainly like that, and Mart has said the same thing about the G9 too, its just a different process.

I'm really struggling to seperate the two, for all the extras the Pod has, the G9 has its own tricks up its sleeves to counter, and to me i think if you'd bought either, you'd be pretty pleased with the sounds on offer.
I think on the cleaner side the G9 definately has the edge, on the Modern High Gain, i think the Pod is infront, but i have had more time to push the X3L to its limits.

In the end, if i had to choose, i think i'd still have the X3L, by milimeters, because with the guitar, vocal and bass settings, it does everything i need, the G9 has the ability too, but not by itself in some cases (imo).
But its extremely close, dispite there vast differences, and it depends alot on what you need from the unit, hopefully the above has given some insight in to both of them :thumb:

Hi guys and gals! Robin Trowers-Bridge Of Sighs. V-Amp Pro with a VooDoo Lab MicroVibe.

Here is one sample using the V-Amp Pro on Brit Hi Gain. The settings are, Gain 62, Volume 126, Bass 116, Mid 64 Treble 78 and Presence 74. Cab Model 4X12 Vintage 30s. Noise gate -48db. Pre FX Compressor- Sense 25:1 and Attack 10ms. FX Chorus 2- Speed 0.23hz, Depth 73, Feedback 64, Mix 65%. FX Reverb Small Room Mix 65%

Voodoo Lab MicroVibe, Settings- Intensity 9, Speed set between
5 1/2 to 6.

Guitar- Squire Strat modded with Kinman Noiseless Pickups using middle position. Patch cord- Planet Waves Gold Platted. No other FX used within the recording software on the guitar parts. The outro part of the song there are 4 guitars going at once doing different things. Listen closely. All using same settings.

Sonar 7 PE

That is one great sound . And to think i have a V-Amp too :banana: , but no Microvibe:maddance: or Kinmans :maddance: .

Dude this is so accurate its untrue :)

Hi Guys,

Don't know if this is the right plce to post this, but I recently renovated an old mex strat using Wilkinson parts. There's a link to the full account of the customisation below, including some soundclips of the Wilkinson pickups vs. a set of US Standard Fender units.

Cheers guys,

John.

Link to document:

http://www.geetarjohnny.com/custombuild.pdf

Hi Guys,

Don't know if this is the right plce to post this, but I recently renovated an old mex strat using Wilkinson parts. There's a link to the full account of the customisation below, including some soundclips of the Wilkinson pickups vs. a set of US Standard Fender units.

Cheers guys,

John.

Link to document:

http://www.geetarjohnny.com/custombuild.pdf

Yep its the right place mate, thanks for your contribution, i'll be checking this out over the weekend :thumb:

Hiya guys, got my D-Sonic and Air Norton installed today, and both sounding excellent, thought i'd record a little test of the lovely tight rhythm sound you can get on the D-Sonic, and i think its extremely close to Mr Petrucci's tone, and this is via my Pod X3L.

The track is "In The Presence Of Enemys Part 1",we join in on the second verse, and that lovely distorted rhythm section, the backing as you'll hear is the original, minus JPs guitars, so you get a good idea of what it sounds like in place of him, even with me playing lol.

I'd really love to cover something by DT again in the future, time permitting, but with this pickup arrangement, i think it might be that extra push needed to finish Glasgow Kiss :)

Anyhow, let me know what you think :banana:

Jamie:

sounds fantastic, nice project to do on your birthday and they sound great mate:dj: , great X3 patch there too.....:devilchil:

I should really swap out my Ibanez RG pups one day....:)

Jamie:

sounds fantastic, nice project to do on your birthday and they sound great mate:dj: , great X3 patch there too.....:devilchil:

I should really swap out my Ibanez RG pups one day....:)

Thanks Mark, i was really impressed with how they both sound, the Air Norton (although not in the above sample) is great in the neck, it still sounds nice for chords, but has lot of clarity on the notes too, fast runs don't just disapear into mud, and i think if it was in 24 fret guitar, it would have even more clarity to it, so thats something i'm looking forward to trying down the line.
The D-Sonic in someways sounds like an Evo for a start, its about the same output and things react in a similar way, but the D-Sonic is far tighter on the bottom end, and seems to have alot more sustain, this might be helped by the Air Nortons low string pull, but all the little things add up, the harmonics are even easier to do aswell, so it realy does appeal to me.
You can hear how nice it sounds to DT, but it sounds great on Satch and Vai too, its in the ball park for alot of the modern high gain sounds, and it even cleans up nicely for those spacey tones with chorus & delay, so i'm very happy with them.
I'll try to do another tester as the weeks go on with both Pickups.