View Full Version : Moog sustaining guitar...
supercharged 350
06-11-2008, 08:42 AM
Discuss.... :)
http://gizmodo.com/5015099/moogs-first-guitar-features-infinite-sustain-so-go-ou
MATTm. eMInEM
06-11-2008, 09:23 AM
thats pretty cool. its sounds even better than those old fernandes sustainers. the power of inovation. we need more stuff like that on new guitars. its about time.
sky1962
06-11-2008, 04:12 PM
Looked and sounded great.
Johnny
06-11-2008, 04:30 PM
That is so cool man! I want one bad,..but I would imagine that it's gonna be pricy!
Johnny
supercharged 350
06-11-2008, 06:05 PM
That is so cool man! I want one bad,..but I would imagine that it's gonna be pricy!
Johnny
$6700.00....
eamon7
06-11-2008, 07:05 PM
a fernandes sustainer costs around $150 and can be put on any guitar. i have one and love it. the moog thing is cool but not worth $6000. hell get a paul reed smith with a fernandes installed and spend the $3000 you save on a splawn and have money left over for beer.
guitaral
06-11-2008, 08:59 PM
or, you can just vibrato the crap out of a note using a high gain amp :lmao:
Ender
06-11-2008, 10:49 PM
That is by far the coolest guitar invention I've seen in a long time - the sustain is much different sounding than the sustain generated by pups/sustainers and/or gain, I'd have a blast with one, the mute thing is great too, the potential is really amazing - but that price is gonna all but put it out of anyone's reach :(
slicer
06-12-2008, 01:19 AM
6.5 grand! lot on money for a toy..like to see vai have a bash on one though :) or a chapman stick.
regards,
jim.
Avalon
06-12-2008, 02:50 AM
$6000??!!, i could setup an RD department and build my own for that :lol:
I think the Fernades is far better value (even though they are hard to get in the uk), and i've had quite alot of sucess building them too, so $6k, just dream world prices, i'd rather buy a Steve Morse Special and a Fernades anyday.
supercharged 350
06-12-2008, 05:02 AM
I totally agree that the price is out of line, but this is quite a bit different from the Fernandes system.
Johnny
06-12-2008, 05:15 AM
$6700.00....
Holy shit! Are you kidding me,,.$6700.00 Well,..it looks like I'll never own one!,..LOL Pretty cool though!
Johnny
macman
06-12-2008, 05:29 AM
it is very cool, but come on 6700...great to see Vernon Reid again...one of my heroes
I could do with this guitar for some projects I am now trying:)
supercharged 350
06-12-2008, 01:54 PM
That is by far the coolest guitar invention I've seen in a long time - the sustain is much different sounding than the sustain generated by pups/sustainers and/or gain, I'd have a blast with one, the mute thing is great too, the potential is really amazing - but that price is gonna all but put it out of anyone's reach :(
I'm with ya Eric, I'll never own one at that price. It would open some doors that a 'conventional' guitar (even with a sustainer pick-up system) couldn't do. Other logistics to think about too though, it obviously uses special strings. How expensive and readily available would they be?
Pretty cool non-the less.
3fingers
06-12-2008, 07:21 PM
Very haunting sounds, and very usable. But I have a Roland GR-300 guitar synth and at times, you can play off the novelty of it, and add something new and creative, but it has it's limits. This will as well...and for the price...not yet ready for prime time imo. It's a great tool though for the toolbox! :thumb:
Ender
06-15-2008, 10:50 AM
I'm with ya Eric, I'll never own one at that price. It would open some doors that a 'conventional' guitar (even with a sustainer pick-up system) couldn't do. Other logistics to think about too though, it obviously uses special strings. How expensive and readily available would they be?
Pretty cool non-the less.
Yeah, there was mention about the strings that have "a specific metallurgy designed to work with the Moog pickups." so, great, $75 a pack strings :chucks:
Ultimately any tool like this is only as good or creative as the person using it. In the bumbling hands of Lou Reed it's no more than a cheap keyboard (love his brilliant epiphany "this does this"). There are some things they're doing with it that a sustainer could never emulate like the parity of each note of a chord being sustained whereas a sustainer or normal pup will grab onto one central note. I could see using this live in a trio of guitar, bass and drums, the guitar could go from power chords to essentially lay down keyboard pad-like sounds in say, a verse.
Give it a year. Some guys in Japan will rip it apart, learn what it is, and make a better one that costs 800-900 and and you'll just need to pour in a cup rice somewhere in the body every once in a while.
Not sure I like all the overtones or 'harmonic blends' as they call it. Some of those sounds Eric Johnson, Steve Vai and Allan Holdsworth already get. It does look like it would help the average player maximize his legato, but it's too expensive for the average player. In the 'muted' mode, it sounds like a banjo. Not really a good sound IMO.
Well, toys like this frustrate the hell out of me. I can't even hardly go into a Guitar Center anymore without having a panic attack because I cannot afford 1/1000ths of the toys available these days. But, regarding the video, it was good to see Vernon Reid in the mix of sampler players. Haven't heard anything from him in many moons.
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